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A note of annoyance, and an understandable sentiment, from [info]rhiannonstone. Cut for a naughty word...

First they came for the knitting needles, and I didn't speak up
Because I wasn't much of a knitter
Then they came for the shoes, and I didn't speak up
Because I wear sandals
Then they came for the lighters, and I didn't speak up
Because I don't smoke...



First they came for the knitting needles, and I didn't speak up
Because I wasn't much of a knitter
Then they came for the shoes, and I didn't speak up
Because I wear sandals
Then they came for the lighters, and I didn't speak up
Because I don't smoke
Then they came for my Dr Pepper --
And now it's on, motherfuckers.

Date: 2006-08-11 08:55 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kayshapero
Before ya know it, we'll all be boarding in the nude with empty hands, and our luggage will have to be shipped several weeks ahead of time via UPS.

One local newsreporter was hazarding the guess that business travellers from LA to SF or Las Vegas will start deciding to drive instead of fly. Given that it is actually FASTER to drive from LA to SF than to fly if you count in all that terminal wait and general rannygazoo, I suspect we passed THAT barrier some time ago (I know I did). Of course being unable to bring your laptop without giving the baggage checkers the chance to steal it, proprietory info and all is likely to put the cap on it...

You're flying out for WorldCon, aren't you. My sincerest sympathies!

Date: 2006-08-11 08:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kayshapero
Er.. SF = San Francisco, LA = Los Angeles. I know you know that, but it's only fair to whoever's reading...

Oh well - "Two more days before the next chapter?", she asked, hopefully...

Date: 2006-08-11 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dduane.livejournal.com
Looking that way. However, I am about to "shake the can" (and for the last time), so do ask around and see if you can find some more victims patsies nice people interested in subscribing. We are soooooo close to breakeven on this, and I would love to never have to shake that can again.

Date: 2006-08-11 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sdorn.livejournal.com
And then there are hiding places for toothpaste (http://playingschool.blogspot.com/2006/08/toothpaste-bra.html).

Date: 2006-08-11 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xnamkrad.livejournal.com
This got me laughing, but then I realised, it's too true to be funny isn't it?

Date: 2006-08-11 10:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] threeringedmoon.livejournal.com
We have a trip to Ireland planned for October, and I am feeling incredibly bummed about what is looking like an increasingly unpleasant air trip. I can remember when flying was a vaguely PLEASANT experience, unless you were very unlucky.

Date: 2006-08-11 11:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] occams_pyramid
There doesn't seem to be anything saying how they will treat watches and jewellery.

"Excuse me sir, I will have to confiscate that Prince Albert."

Date: 2006-08-11 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davidkevin.livejournal.com

Good luck to her. If they catch her, she'll be prosecuted as a smuggler and terrorist.

I wish I was exaggerating. I'm not.

Date: 2006-08-11 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xnamkrad.livejournal.com
While a part of me does agree that the flight may be more unpleasant, just bear it mind Ireland is worth the visit :-)
But being a bit more serious, every time someone cancels a flight, the terrorists have won another victory.

Date: 2006-08-11 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolf-moonshadow.livejournal.com
Hubby's first question was if they were going to prevent women with gel breast implants from flying. I can see it now, 'You'd better watch out, that boob could be loaded.'

Date: 2006-08-11 12:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] occams_pyramid
Assuming of course that they bother with a prosecution before deciding she's guilty.

Date: 2006-08-11 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewline.livejournal.com
I hear that.

I'm also noting one of the other UK-specific restrictions that may have some of the others here subbing the title of their favourite work of yours for "my Dr. Pepper" in their own minds.

Most unnerving, that particular rule.

Date: 2006-08-11 01:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kgbooklog.livejournal.com
Every time the government takes away more of our freedoms, the terrorists win.

Date: 2006-08-11 02:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] batyatoon
I was expecting that to end like the whiskey-cigarettes-chocolate one.

"When they came for the Dr Pepper, I reached for my gun and --

"--well, crap."

Date: 2006-08-11 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sfrose.livejournal.com
There was a story reported when the Acela (high-speed train between Boston and NY) started about two reporters who "raced" from Back Bay Boston (I think) to midtown Manhattan. One of the train the other on the Shuttle. The train passenger just barely won. And that was pre-9/11.

What is "shake the can"? I'm fairly new to your LJ so I might have missed any description...

Date: 2006-08-11 02:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wolfette
She should get some of those little "Oral B Brush Ups" - they're a little disposable 'sleeve' you fit over your finger. One side is textured, the other plain, they're coated in a minty tooth-powder type stuff that tastes as good as any average toothpaste and, in tests (independantly done by one of those science magazine type tv shows in the UK) they're as good at getting the fug off your teeth and tongue as any expensive "Sonicare". As they come sealed in little flat packets, bearing the manufacturer's name boldly on the side, I'd bet that airport security will accept them, even in these times of crisis.

Date: 2006-08-11 02:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wolfette
Ummmm - the pocket watch? Or the other "prince albert"?

;-)

Date: 2006-08-11 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keristor.livejournal.com
Oh, I thought it was Science Fiction and Linear Acceleration *g*. (Hi, by the way, I didn't know you were here!)

Date: 2006-08-11 02:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] occams_pyramid
The jewellery :-)

Date: 2006-08-11 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dduane.livejournal.com
Re can-shaking: I'm publishing the third and last of the "Feline Wizardry" books online (see www.the-big-meow.com (http://www.the-big-meow.com) for all the sordid details). It's being published chapter by chapter at the website: and people who subscribe to the book get a print version of it (paperback or hardcover as they prefer, included in the subscription price) when the book's complete. (Subscribers also get to see the chapters earlier.)

The next chapter will be ready sometime on Monday. and I am very close to the financial "break-even point" I set for the project when it started. When each chapter's ready, I "shake the can" and invite new subscriptions (from those on the "we're vaguely interested" mailing list) and voluntary donations (from those on the donor/subscriber list). When we hit the necessary amount for a given chapter to meet the preset financial go/no-go point for that chapter, it gets posted. However, this time out we're so close to break-even that if enough $ comes in at the Shaking of the Can, I'll never have to shake it again. Which will make me Happy. (Especially just before Worldcon.) ;)

So there you have it. If you know someone who might be interested in supporting the completion of the trilogy, then point them at the website and invite them to make their presence known by subscribing. This is the best possible time...

Date: 2006-08-11 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buran.livejournal.com
One news article I saw was talking about banning cameras.

I am not checking $3000 in equipment. They pull that and they lose me. Permanently.

Date: 2006-08-11 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buran.livejournal.com
Oh please. You expect us to bend over and take it when we get increasingly treated like criminals, never mind we haven't done anything wrong?

Date: 2006-08-11 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewline.livejournal.com
A fair concern.

And this to put beside it: what if inspiration strikes big-time and I haven't got my laptop computer at hand to write?

Date: 2006-08-11 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xnamkrad.livejournal.com
Well there is the alternate technology tablet - known as a writing pad and a pen.
But
a) I can't read my own hand writing
b) once when attacked by a school bully I used a pen and drove it deep into his hand (and btw he never attacked me again) but this means they will have to ban pens as well.
Oh - seeing they've banned books, they probably banned pads as well.
Damn - it was a good idea

Date: 2006-08-11 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dewline.livejournal.com
Which extends my concerns into the realm of my other night job as a cartoonist for now-obvious reasons...

Date: 2006-08-11 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genmaicha.livejournal.com
It's getting to the point where a lot of people are saying they just ain't gonna fly anymore.

Overly belated on this note, but I finally went through and paid for a Big Meow subscription. I am inherantly lazy.

Date: 2006-08-11 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dduane.livejournal.com
You and billyuns millyuns thousands lots of others. But I don't mind, because this is a Good Time. :)

As we say here: "Thanking You."

Date: 2006-08-11 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paxluvfelicitas.livejournal.com
*claps*

I'm sorry, I don't know you (though I'm a HUGE fan), but I'm flying out of Shannon in Limerick tomorrow, and until I found out they were allowing hand luggage, I had a plan to smuggle aboard a copy of The Picture of Dorian Grey duct taped to my thigh. So. I sympathize.

Date: 2006-08-11 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dduane.livejournal.com
Fly happily and safely!

And for Ghu's sake have an Irish coffee on the way out if you can. They still use Joe Sheridan's old recipe at Shannon (they tried to co-opt it for themselves and claim the airport invented it, the wicked creatures up in Marketing; but some of us know better).

Date: 2006-08-11 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ndgmtlcd.livejournal.com
I've dreamt for a long time of going by ship to Europe. Now I have a good excuse to justify the extra cost next summer.

Date: 2006-08-11 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Aye, Jette, but they'll only end up finding some way to class those as weapons. I mean, all those wee rubber spikes? Bound to be lethal in some way.

The lists of what you CAN take don't include books so I guess they're worried about the potential for terrorists to use the pages to inflict the death of a thousand paper-cuts on each individual passenger. Heaven forbid they should manage to open a hatch and throw the loosened leaves out of the plane of a major conurbation....

Chief Judge Grimm

Date: 2006-08-12 02:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pm215
Subscribing is now on my list of things to do, but I'm not going to be reunited with my credit card for probably another month or so. I trust you're not going to stop _accepting_ money, just soliciting it? :-)

Date: 2006-08-12 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trdsf.livejournal.com
It certainly makes me glad that there's really nowhere I want to go that involves flying... just a periodic two-point-five hour drive to see the rest of the family. Although I can't knit while driving anyway. Ah, well.

Date: 2006-08-12 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deref.livejournal.com
Yeah, well I guess it won't stop me flying, but it'll certainly make it even *more* shitful than it already is.

Date: 2006-08-12 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mythos-amante.livejournal.com
Um...I think you guys are in agreement...right? Except for the "Oh please," I don't see anything you're saying that conflicts with what the above are saying.

Date: 2006-08-12 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mythos-amante.livejournal.com
So......gas prices are going up again? ;D

I might almost think it's a conspiracy. (That's an understatement) It's pretty creepy. We won't fly, we can't afford to drive...I guess that's one way to control a population is to keep its smaller parts isolated. AND oil companies use it as an excuse to hike prices up again.

(I'm here through a friend of a friend's journal. It's an interesting post! XD)

Date: 2006-08-12 07:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dduane.livejournal.com
Oh, new subs (and new money) will always be welcome. :) I set the break-even point equal to what I would have normally received for a "work for hire" novel in one of somebody else's universes: that is to say, relatively low. It'll take a good number of subscriptions yet to get this project close to what I would get for one of my own novels these days.

So yes, don't worry, your (later) sub will be very welcome indeed. ;)

Date: 2006-08-13 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] landley.livejournal.com
Hey, if you let me subscribe by mailing a check instead of the funky paypal thing, I'd already have done it.

Rob

Date: 2006-08-13 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nerdpony.livejournal.com
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4784225.stm

That there is a link to total insanity.

Then they came for the musical instruments, and I didn't speak up
Because my guitar is just a cheap heirloom.

Date: 2006-08-15 04:15 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Ditto. Heard too many Paypal horror stories to touch it.

Date: 2006-08-23 07:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chkngrrl.livejournal.com
The airlines have been anti-musicians for a long time. Most of them are very resistant to allowing people to bring guitars and such as carry-on items, particularly on full flights, because of how much room they take up. As if some business f*cker and his huge carry-on bag and commando brief case take up any less space than a guitar case!

Date: 2006-08-23 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nerdpony.livejournal.com
Aargh.

That is why I like Germany so much better. I took my guitar on a couple long-distance train trips, and it was never a problem.

Date: 2006-08-31 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] farasha.livejournal.com
Say what?

I've seen a guy fit an acoustic guitar and a bass in an overhead compartment. If it fits, you can carry it on. End of story.

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